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Jim's avatar

It's why as much as I detest the State of Israel I don't use "stolen land" rhetoric against them; if they can conquer the Palestinians, it's their land.

If savages (and our primary enemies who are enabling them) can re-take America and remove me from my own home without me being able to stop them, they have earned it. The problem is our people forgot this and are still making legal arguments hoping invaders and bandits can be persuaded.

Force is all that matters, "property rights" and constitutions are gentlemen's agreements on already conquered and defended land.

Two wolves fighting over territory don't debate right and wrong, or who's the rightful owner of anything. This is the underlying barbarism of reality that much of the world is already in the mindset of that decadent people thought we somehow progressed out of.

Whoever can conquer, is the heroic victor. Moral arguments have their place within civilizations among countrymen, but don't really matter in war.

In other words, it's time for the White man to conquer, and be the fucking "bad guy."

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An excellent piece, Mr. Crowley! I discovered your excellent Substack yesterday and read your piece on how the American Southwest was NOT stolen. I will admit that I don’t always agree with your views but I nonetheless have great respect for you and that you challenge politically correct historic myths that everyone these days just takes as gospel. I also wanted to mention you may not agree with everything I write in my comment here either but I hope you will give me a fair hearing because I think you make an excellent point here.

Indeed there is a BIG difference between conquered and stolen. But white Europeans and Americans did NOT steal the Americas from its Indigenous people they conquered them in war often with the help of other indigenous peoples. For example, the Tlaxcalans assisted the Spanish in fighting and defeating the Aztec Empire and helped Spain to conquer the Philippines. Columbus and his men were assisted by the Tainos in fighting the Caribs. General George A. Custer had Kiowa scouts assisting him and the U.S. Army in fighting the Sioux, Cheyenne and Arapaho. Just to name a few examples. It’s not like the Indigenous people all liked each other. Each tribe was a nation unto itself and they fought each other in bloody wars and conquered each other’s land long before and long after the white man showed up on the continent. The Chickasaw and others drove the Sioux from their native lands in Minnesota.

The Sioux then conquered and massacred the Ponca, Oto, Kiowa, Omaha, and Pawnee without mercy and took their lands. The land in the Black Hills where Mount Rushmore currently stands? The United States took it from the Sioux who had previously taken it from the Cheyenne who had previously taken it from the Crow. Conquest is just a part of human history and they did it to each other all the time. The Native Americans were not idyllic hippies who spent all day dancing and lived in a pristine utopia until the white man came along and ruined everything. They practiced not only conquest and fought wars but also practiced human sacrifice, cannibalism, head hunting, chattel slavery, sexual slavery, environment destruction, and torture of prisoners.

Yes, there are individual cases where white settlers through chicanery and trickery stole land from Natives and that was of course wrong. But most of the land in this country was acquired via conquest or in peaceful trade with the Native peoples. By the way, conquest has been the norm throughout human history until it’s formal reputation in 1949. But for most of human history if you had the military strength to take and hold a piece of land you got to keep it. The Indigenous peoples of the Americas are far from the only ones who that happened to and they did it to each other all the time. Indigenous peoples around the globe like the Aboriginal Australians, the Māoris and the Native Hawaiians were not angels who spent all their time holding hands and singing kumbaya before the Europeans arrived.

The Nobel Savage trope is complete nonsense and if you truly want to respect Indigenous cultures and people and not infantilize them you need to stop repeating these myths. There are many other examples of conquest from history I can think of where it would just as ridiculous to claim the land was stolen. The English conquered the Scots and the Irish, African tribes conquered and enslaved each other, the Romans brutally took over Gaul and massacred one million of its people, the Japanese brutally tyrannized over the Chinese, Vietnamese, Koreans, Filipinos, Indonesians, and Burmese, the Haitians took control and ruled over the Dominicans, so on and so forth. The Comanche Empire and the way they ruthlessly took the land of other Native American tribes shows that the Native people were just as land hungry, greedy and power hungry as any other group of people. No, America is not a stolen country and this myth is absolutely ahistorical and ridiculous. I recognize the grave injustices done to the Native Americans by the U.S. government. But they don’t change the fact that the things that happened between white settlers and the Indigenous people is the same things that human beings have done to each other for over a millennia.

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